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Mounting Pre-Filed Gun Bills Are More 2020 Campaign Statements than Actionable Legislation

October 10, 2019 - 8:00am

Florida could become the 16th state to adopt “constitutional carry,” meaning no permit would be required to publicly carry a firearm, or lawmakers could impose more restrictions on concealed and open carry.

It could go either way during Florida’s 2020 legislative session, which begins Jan. 14. More likely, however, it goes neither way and everything stays the same.

Florida gun rights advocates and gun control proponents are squaring off in a battle of pre-filed bills that are unlikely to gain collaborative traction during the upcoming legislative session but will likely serve as November 2020 campaign issues.

House Bill 273, pre-filed Oct. 1 by Rep. Anthony Sabatini, R-Howey-In-The-Hills, would implement “constitutional carry,” allowing Floridians to carry guns without applying for a concealed-weapons permit.

Florida Gun Rights, which supports “constitutional carry,” explains the change in law outlined by Sabatini’s proposal would be as simple as it would be profound.

“Currently, anyone who wants to carry a handgun for self-defense must first [ask] for permission, record their fingerprints and personal information with the government and pay expensive fees,” the group said in a statement. “But under constitutional carry, any citizen who is legally allowed to possess a firearm will be allowed to carry it. Period. End of story.”

According to FiscalNote/CQ State Tracker, if HB 273 is adopted, Florida would become the 16th state to not require any permit to carry a firearm in public spaces.

In addition to rolling back requirements for concealed carry permits, HB 273 would lower the legal gun-possessing age to 18 and require Florida to recognize all concealed weapon/firearms licenses from other states, even those with looser requirements.

HB 273 “deletes the requirement that a person obtain a permission slip from government before concealing a weapon for their self-defense -- also known as ‘constitutional carry,’” Sabatini tweeted. “Our Second Amendment right should not be determined by a government bureaucracy.”

The Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence and Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control group financed by former New York Mayor billionaire Michael Bloomberg, have issued statements denouncing Sabatini’s bill.

The Florida Department of Agriculture reports around 2 million Floridians have filed for a concealed carry license in 2019, a 76 percent increase from last year.

The department said in September it processes around 20,000 permit applications a month, noting a quarter of applicants – about 500,000 – are women.

Florida law bans citizens from carrying firearms on school grounds, into courthouses, polling places, sporting events, college campuses and places where government agencies meet, including the Legislature in Tallahassee.

Sabatini has also pre-filed HB 6001 to prohibit state colleges and universities from banning those with concealed weapon permits from carrying firearms on school properties.

His two bills are among at least four “pro” gun rights measures pre-filed for 2020.

The others include HB 6003, by Rep. Mike Hill, R-Pensacola, seeking to repeal gun control measures adopted in 2018’s SB 7026, and HB 183, by Rep. Mel Ponder, R-Fort Walton Beach, to allow elected members of governing bodies with concealed weapons permits to carry at public meetings.

While Sabatini’s HB 273 would essentially preempt state law for "constitutional carry," Rep. Cindy Polo, D-Hialeah, and Sen. Lori Berman, D-Boynton Beach, have introduced companion House-Senate bills adding childcare and daycare operations to places where concealed carry is banned.

“There is no valid reason for a parent or visiting adult to be armed when entering a childcare facility,” Berman said. “In our schools, we protect our children by only allowing guns on campus in the hands of trained personnel. This same standard should apply here.”

Berman has also submitted SB 11, a “red flag” law that would add parents, grandparents, spouses, siblings and guardians to those able to request a risk protection order to require law enforcement remove firearms from an individual the petitioner has reason to believe poses a threat to themselves or others.”

Among other gun control bills are two filed Sen. Lauren Book, D-Plantation, and Sen. Gary Farmer, D-Ft. Lauderdale, seeking background checks on all firearms transactions.

SB 134 and HB 6009, by Sen. Annette Taddeo, D-Miami, and Rep. Dan Daley, D-Sunrise, seek to repeal a 1987 preemption law that prohibits local governments from adopting gun regulations more restrictive than the state’s.

HB 11, by Rep. Al Jacquet, D-Riviera Beach, would require concealed weapon applicants to undergo mental health evaluation; SB 266 by Farmer would require loaded firearms be secured with a trigger lock; Sen. Linda Stewart’s, D-Orlando, SB 310 would prohibit “ghost guns” that contain less than 4 ounces of metal.

Book and Daley last week also filed companion bills seeking background checks to be conducted for ammunition sales.

Book’s SB 460 and Daley’s HB 289 are dubbed ‘Jaime’s Law’ in memory of 14-year-old Jaime Guttenberg, who was murdered during the Valentine’s Day 2018 Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting.

John Haughey is the Florida contributor for The Center Square.


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Between the Pwayto-Reeeekans, the locusts fleeing California, Illinois, Taxachussetts, New York and New Jersey (who vote for the same Demon-Rat Party that destroyed their states in the first place), the illegal aliens and the perennial cemetery vote, it is becoming increasingly difficult to hold the Demon-Rats at bay in Florida. At the very minimum, the Republicans better get Constitutional Carry passed before it's too late. It's too late for Oregon and Washington, and it's almost too late for Texas, but for gawd's sake, don't California my Florida.

You know the reason for all those constitutional amendments: the minority, gerrymandered Republican controlled state legislature refuses to serve the public, serving special interests who pay to play instead. Believe me, the old Florida where folks with pick up trucks actually needed a truck, all had rifle racks in the back windows, nobody worried about guns because everybody was pretty law abiding. Nobody carried weapons of war, not even the National Guard. What will you do when the dirtiest president in American history is gone? Who will you worship then....Rudy? Paul Manafort? Vladimir Putin? Kim Il Jong? Tayyip Erdogan?

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Not ONE of the gun control bills would have prevented a Parkland or Pulse shooting. Even you want real solutions, I suggest reading Andrew Pollack's new book.

"Pre-filed bills": These "entitled", spoiled & lazy pettifoggers sure know how to find ways to waste 'tax money'; pretty soon they'll announce a "new State Income Tax" for us, to cover their incompetence.

The Democrat party has promised that if they get in power they most absolutely WILL create a new state income tax. Gollum ran on that, and it probably contributed to his defeat. If you want to prevent a state income tax, the solution is easy, always vote against anyone from the Democrat party.

It's definitely at the point here that potential retirees and snowbirds should really look hard and long at whether Florida is the right place for them to relocate. Certainly, if they have a history of being committed Democrats or even open-minded Independents, they should probably look elsewhere to settle. Same for working families with kids. Unless you're a TrumpNut, a GunNut, or a Rightwingnut - Florida is probably not for you.

That is actually happening now with people looking west like Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. Meanwhile, corporations are steering clear of Florida because of its ultra-conservative lawmakers. They like cities like, Tampa, St. Pete and Miami but it is hard to recruit families to a state so out of step with mainstream America. That not a Democratic thing it is a New Republican Party thing. They long for the days of Jeb Bush - people who were more moderate.

Yeah, you wouldn't want to live in a state where you're allowed to defend yourself from democRAT criminals.

WOW!!!!!! 2 Million new Florida Concealed Weapon Permits applied for in 2019. A 76 percent increase from last year. 500,000 new law abiding Florida women applied for a Florida Concealed Weapon Permit last year. Thank you to the 2 million new law abiding citizens of Florida that have received at minimum an 8 hour Firearm Safety Course provided by a state approved Firearm Safety Course Provider (NRA, Former Military or Law Enforcement) as descripted in Florida Statute 790.06. Again the GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA leads the way as a model for the rest of the United States to follow. Remember 1983 / 1984 Florida Legislative Session when the STATE OF FLORIDA led the way from "may issue" to "shall issue".

Every time someone commits a crime with a gun, democRATs want to punish the people that didn't do it.

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So true Donna. And if Constitutional Carry could ever be passed in Florida mass shootings and crime in general would go down. Way down. Do our Republican controlled in tandem with our Conservative controlled Supream Court in Florida have the desire to adopt Constitutional Carry? No absloutly not. Why? Because they want the media and the left to like them. Funny thing is the media and the left will never like them no matter what the conservative controlled government of Florida does or does not do about Constitutional Carry or any other subject.

Colt, you are absolutely correct! If the ignorant lunatic puppets would use their brains instead of their mouths and look at the FBI statistics show that gun crimes goes down with the more people who buy guns for the protection. I do like the idea of having open carry or allowing any nutjob to buy a gun, but we have the constitutional right to protect ourselves and family wherever we go!!! The anti-gun employes are nothing but a mob hired by a group of power hungry Like the mayor and governor of the stinking state of New York and the companies they threaten...........

You oughta have someone look at all of those loose connections of yours, Colty. (I'll bet you your middle initial is 'D.', right Colty? LOL)

And you, VoteDemRat2020, should work on trying to gain a third brain cell to keep the other two company.

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