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Gary Johnson, Jill Stein Helping Donald Trump in Florida

October 6, 2016 - 9:00am
Gary Johnson, Donald Trump and Jill Stein
Gary Johnson, Donald Trump and Jill Stein

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and Jill Stein on the Green Party line are keeping Donald Trump close to Hillary Clinton in Florida. That’s what a University of North Florida (UNF) poll released on Thursday shows. 

When it’s just the two major party candidates, Clinton is ahead of Trump 47 percent to 40 percent. But when Johnson and Stein are included, Trump narrows the gap. In that scenario, Clinton takes 41 percent while Trump pulls 38 percent, Johnson gets 6 percent and 3 percent are for Stein. 

“Clinton has gotten a bounce after her strong debate performance last week, it will be fascinating to see how this plays out after the second debate on Sunday,” said Michael Binder, the faculty director of UNF’s Public Opinion Research Laboratory. “The size of Clinton’s lead drops when the additional candidates (Johnson and Stein) are listed in the question. This suggests that the Clinton campaign should perhaps perceive Johnson as a threat, who is taking more votes from her than Trump.”

Both of the major party candidates are upside down in Florida. Trump is seen as unfavorable by 60 percent while 37 percent view him favorably. Clinton is seen as unfavorable by 54 percent though 43 percent see her favorably. 
 
“While neither candidate has high favorability for the majority of likely voters in Florida, Clinton’s net negative 9 percent is better than Trump’s net negative 23 percent,” Binder noted. 

Men prefer Trump while women break Clinton’s way. Trump takes voters 55 and older while younger voters prefer Clinton. Both of the candidates have nailed down their party bases but a majority of voters outside the major parties--56 percent--are for Clinton while 29 percent back Trump. 

Asked what the most important issue is, 27 percent say jobs and the economy and 17 percent point to terrorism. Education is the most important issue to 10 percent while 8 percent say it’s health-care and 7 percent think immigration is. 

The poll of 696 likely Florida voters was taken from Sep. 27 through Oct. 4 and had a margin of error of +/- 3.8 percent. 

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"When it’s just the two major party candidates, Clinton is ahead of Trump 47 percent to 40 percent." When the poll doesn't represent actual reality and ignores the fact that there are more than two choices, here are the results.

It's the control group for reference, so that the poll that reflects reality can be compared to something. Basic stuff, here.

I hope the third party candidates spoil it for crooked Hillary, she is the greater evil. The fact that the Bushes are supporting her should tell you she is the establishment's candidate.#NEVERHILLARY

Good News! Anything that will help to keep that corrupt military-hating crook out of the WH, is a very good thing!

I'm not voting for either, but I'd vote for a purported liar than I would an obvious asshole. Trump is the "man baby." Anyone who votes for him clearly needs mental healthcare. Flori-DUH!

The Greens have been the most effectively reactionary force in the history of American politics. I am amazed at how arrogantly retarded they behave. Shame on them.

Yes, it is the Green party that made Hillary Clinton the corrupt, pathological lying warmonger that she is today. And it's also their fault she's married to that awful scumbag Bill Clinton. Shame on you Green party!

To assay the candidates I prefer to look at their policies, what they will work to accomplish if elected. I look at their understanding of all aspects of the job. I look at how they view the world and our nation's place in it. I look to what their priorities are and how they will spend their political capital. Are they tactical thinkers or strategic thinkers? Do they take the long view or are they interested in jumping on hot topics? Are they hard workers? Dutiful? Can they build consensus? Are they ideologues? I am a pragmatist. We have problems that need addressing. Energy. Immigration. Security. Civil rights. Education. Debt. Job security. Infrastructure. All of these must addressed and resolved among others. Who can tackle these issues, lead us to solutions, and leave the ship of state better than they found it? For me the answer is clear.

You think as I do. Don't know if we reach the same conclusions but at least we think, study, look for facts.

So from the comments above, people see both Hillary and Trump are dishonest. I think we can agree Trump created his own successful business, albeit by what means he deemed necessary. Why choose the lesser of two evils when there is another candidate who is honest and also built his own business. If these are the traits you support, Gary Johnson has shown he is honest and can admit his own faults, built his own multi-million dollar corporation (Big J Enterprises, est. in 1976) with over 1,000 employees when it was sold in 1999, AND was a two term libertarian governor in a democratic state. Fiscally conservative & small government for the Republicans and socially progressive for the Democrats. As an contractor and veteran, what am I missing that everyone else sees in voting for these other people? Are these really the representative we want for ourselves and our children and the example as an American we want the rest of the world to follow as a leader of the free world? That is insane!

Gary would be my choice, EXCEPT my vote for him could mean we have Trump in the White House. Even Bill Weld has said that Trump is a disaster.

Libertarians have taken the top down approach to politics. They have no successes to point to in governor's mansions. No legislative victories. No proof. Start small and earn the higher offices. Do the work. We aren't just handing out keys to a party that has never bothered itself with winning elections and governing. But at least Johnson has some experience, more credit than the Republican candidate can claim. Remember when Republicans complained of Obama's lack of experience?

The problem is that there are no Green Party or Libertarian Party members of Congress. Imagine that Gary Johnson wins in November. He stands in front of Congress and has no allies. In fact it would be in the best interestd of Republicans and Democrats to make sure that a President Gary Johnson failed miserably, thus ensuring that Libertarians would not only never be President again but also that they would never even make it to Congress. Change, real change, can only happen from the bottom up. If you're a dedicated Libertarian then you need to elect Libertarians to every single office whether it's local state or federal. But if you think Gary Johnson will single-handedly be able to change things when faced with two parties that completely oppose him, forget about it. Ultimately Gary Johnson cannot win because he has no Congressional support. If you vote for Johnson and Trump wins then not only will there never be a Libertarian President, but Trump will most likely be the last American president ever. Love her or hate her, the only sane choice is Hillary Clinton.

Independents now outnumber Democrats and Republicans and a third party candidate would be just what we needed to energize this voter base and get control of our government back into the hands of the people and not the special interests, if congress doesn't want to cooperate then they will be voted out the door. The American people are fed up with establishment politicians and the rigged two party system, why do you think Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump did so well? Why do you think Republicans like the Bushes are endorsing Hillary Clinton? Because she is the establishment's candidate and the duopoly work for the same master – the 1%. Trump is bucking the system, he's running as a Republican but he’s already a billionaire and can't be bought by special interests - horribly frightening to the establishment; they need a puppet they can control. That’s why you’re seeing the billion dollar corporate media propaganda campaign making Trump out to be the anti-Christ, and now they’re smearing the third party candidates as well because they’re threatening to take votes away from their chosen one – Hillary Clinton. We need to take our Democracy back and elect an organizer in chief, not another puppet for the plutocracy. If you want the status quo - endless war, shrinking middle class, increased wealth inequality, increased poverty, (All happened under Obama) and the outsourcing of even more of our jobs with the TPP, vote for Hillary Clinton and the demo-RATS. If you want real change, there is only one choice - Dr. Jill Stein and the Green Party.

Glad to hear from some of the girls! As far as Jerry goes, still think he is into shake and bake meth from a 2 liter Coke bottle. Speaking of which - the mentally wacked out Howard Dean and his coke remarks about Trump sniffling. This a man that has never had a drink. Now Tim Kaine the other night. Face broken out, shrill speech, repeating himself, shaking hands, nervous in the service of his God Hillary, looking like he was under the spotlight of a police interrogation, interrupting grown ups talking, just in general making a teen age like jackass of himself - now THAT was a man that looked like he was cranking. Bout like Howard Dean did when he had his meltdown. Let Trump talk about what he wants to do. Let the treasonous, thieving harridan talk about what she HAS done.

Any woman that votes for Hillary deserves to be put away. She has NEVER done anything for women. In fact the things has backed have hurt women. She has always paid women less in gov. jobs. TRUMP on the other hand has paid women since the early 70's more than men and if they are qualified they get the job over a man. I am ashamed to be a woman when these idiots will vote for her because she is a woman. That is stupid. She has no qualifications except ruining everything she is in involved with. Ask the families of Benghazi. She has used the Clinton Foundation which gives ZIPPO to charities as a laundering house for all the MILLIONS she has taken in from countries that stone woman, cut their genitals, and behead them for whatever the man thinks is a reason. If this is the kind of woman you vote for, you are truly sick. The woman makes me ill just thinking of the corrupt things she has been involved in, the murderers that have happened, etc. What about her defending her husband for all those sexual exploits? She cares less about women than most men. If she wins we are in a collapse of America totally and one world gov. The ONLY way this country could survive then is a bloody revolution which we would not survive as women. You bimbos will destroy America with your thinking she will do anything for America. I want a strong America, a free America, and that is TRUMP-Pence. TRUMP for America or America is over.

Of course, the media didn't show H's ear piece feeding her the propaganda and zingers. It didn't show the hand signals she gave the compliant Lester Holt, which were followed by his attacks on DJT. What a set up. This is what Democrats are all about. They've always had their share of thugs to push their agenda to the detriment of USA.

You are absolutely right Barb. The media is in the tank for Hillary and will do as they are told., They are all paid off with her corrupt millions which she never earned. How do you get MILLIONS for doing nothing.? TRUMP worked hard and was good in business and real estate. He made his m only LEGALLY. And out of over 300 investments , the 4 they keep bringing up were the casinos that he did reorganized of credit...not a bankruptcy where he paid nothing. He should have explained that but he let the LIARS lie. ALL the other casinos there did the same thing. He pulled out, later sold them as he doesn't gamble anyway so why did he need to get into it? I am in real estate so I know the LEGAL deductions for depreciation, etc. and any losses you take. There is nothing illegal about that. But taking Saudi money under the table and putting it in a illegal money laundering is illegal; and corrupt and that is what Hillary did. GOD will judge her and it can;t be too soon for me.

Lynn, that is rich coming from someone supporting the biggest liar of all, Trump ., lying constantly . And it isn't Hillary committing crimes like Trump who after he loses the election, will go bankrupt and hopefully to jail as the criminal he is. ....... And someone bragging how smart they are lost $1B in just a yr says very differently but you are too dumb to notice and easily fooled. You should have that checked out Lynn.

Jerry, you are either a liar or an idiot and maybe bnoth. If you actually think that TRUMP has done anything illegal then you know NOTHING about business or real estate. You liars just say the lying buzz words over and over and expect stupid women to believe it. Sadly there are a lot of stupid women and that is sad. When you are working with billions or even millions, to lose that with 4 casinos is really not a huge amount. He re-organized his debt, paid off things and moved on to greater investments. ALL of the casinos in N.J. did the same, or just walked way from their debt. TRUMP did NOT walk away but re organized it and paid off, then later sold them. he has NEV ER done anything corrupt like Hillary with her ill gotten millions. Can you explain where someone who has not had a real job since Rosewood where she was FIRED, except the sec. of st.a couple of years and senator a couple of year....but has MILLIONS? Where did she get them legally? And if you say she got them from a few speaking engagements you are nuts too., Why don't you people that hate America so, leave. I bet you would be happy in Dabui.

Adalle, just how gullible you are and now Trump has been caught admitting to assaulting women regularly while his new wife was pregnant with his child?.......... Just how many vile things does he have to do before you see what a POS he is? ..... he imports workers taking Florida jobs, nearly everything he says is a lie.......... What kind of morals do you have to support someone like him? No real Christian could.

As an Independent voter, I think intelligent people will choose the lesser of 2 evils, which is not "the Donald". The fact that a reality TV joke was the R nomination is troubling to say the least...classic.

If you think Hillary is the lessor of 2 evils then you need to get a brain. If you think someone who has lied about everything one corrupt practices to get money from countries that would nuke us if possible, then you could not be any kind of a thinking person. Millions taken in from who knows where and they do not account for any of it. She gets a pass for that and everything eklse she hasa been involved in. She is an evil person and laughs at how stupid people like you are to follow her blindly. You can't be independent as they have a brain as I know many and they ALL are for TRUMP. He is an outsider, he is like the rest of us, that the gov. steals from and lies to. he will change that and he will make America great again, strong again , and be proud again. Right now we are an apology by a man that has weakened us here and world wide. The world is laughing at us`. They respect TRUMP, but say ..ah more of the same with Hillary. Plus they expect her to die soon as she is covering up. Then what?? I expect that there will be a bloodly revolution if TRUMP does not get in as this country will be thrown into one world gov.

Gary Johnson is leading with independents 31% to Hillary's and Trump's equal tie of 24%. Gary Johnson is leading with millennials 38% to Clinton's 15% and Trump's 12%. CNN's exit poll from the presidential debate question: if the election was held today who would you vote for Hillary or Trump? The response Hillary 38%, Trump 18% and 48% stated NEITHER. My question is how stupid does the media and commission of presidential debates believe people are? Mathematically if someone, namely Gary Johnson is leading with the largest voting demographic of independents 42% and one third of the voting block, millennials that includes all three political parties, how can you expect people to believe that Gary Johnson is not ahead.

No response necessary...your uneducated sheep drivel speaks for itself...

People finally got to see both side by side and found out Clinton id far better in every way, trouncing the bully Trump because unlike other republicans, Clinton can't be bullied, she strikes back showing Trump for what he is..... so of course she is ahead. The more the public sees of both of them, the better Clinton looks.

jerry, I would not be surprised if you are a stupid lying woman or a plant from the dem party.

How anyone in this country could vote for a phony liar such as Hillary Clinton, excuse me, Crooked Hillary, is a big mystery. It just shows how far our country has tanked in a hurry to get to the bottom.

And just exactly is it that is so great about Trump? Do reports on his business dealings and illegal camp campaign contributions not register with you? Crooked Hillary? Remember the glass house admonition. Those living in glass houses...

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